SUMMARY RECORD OF THE SECOND MEETING. Red Cross National Training Centre, Beijing Tuesday, 8 September 1987 at 2.30 p.m.

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(WPR/RC38/SR/2) SUMMARY RECORD OF THE SECOND MEETING Red Cross National Training Centre, Beijing Tuesday, 8 September 1987 at 2.30 p.m. CHAIRMAN: Professor Chen Minzhang (China) CONTENTS 1. Report of the Regional Director (continued) 94-93 -

94 RIDIONAL COMMITTEE: THIRTY-EIGHTH SESSION 1. REPORT OF THE RIDIONAL DIRECTOR: Item 7 of the Agenda (Document WPR/RC38/2) (continued from the first meeting, section 6) The chapter. Chairman proposed that the report be discussed chapter by It was so agreed. Introduction (pages ix-xvii) There were no comments. Part I: General statement of activities in the Region (pages 1-207) Chapter 1: General programme development (pages 1-7) There were no comments. Chapter 2: External coordination for health and social development (pages 9-13) There were no comments. Chapter 3: Health system development (pages 15-27) Dr CHAN SIANG SUN (Malaysia), referring to Chapters 3 and 4, expressed the opinion that the greatest challenge to Member States was to develop more efficient and effective management of existing resources. He thanked the Regional Director for his efforts and assistance in the various activities that were being implemented. However, many of the fundamental changes needed to achieve health for all had not taken place. There appeared to be inadequate commitment on the part of those with managerial expertise. He welcomed the suggestion by the Director-General that the area of leadership for health for all should be examined, and looked forward to the Technical Discussions to be held during the next World Health Assembly. At the regional level, it might be necessary to provide additional resources, since there was likely to be a growing demand for expertise and collaboration, particularly in the areas of health economics and health planning and management. Mr SONG YUNFU (China) said that good ini tia ti ves had already been taken b,y WHO in the important field of health leadership. Better managerial skills, especially at community level, were important for the efficient use of resources. The Regional Director, in his report, had mentioned that four seminars had been held in China. Those seminars had been very useful and he hoped that further support in that regard would be available in the future, both for China and for other Member States. Dr DE SOUZA (Australia) noted that the principal goal in health systems development was the development of relevant epidemiological surveillance systems. A major problem in some countries was the inability to collect and evaluate basic data. His Government

SUMMARY RECORD OF THE SECOND MEETING 95 supported strengthening of the managerial process and, in 1986, had held a workshop jointly with WHO on health economics, finances and costing. The achievement of health for all would depend on the cooperation of all health workers, including epidemiologists, economists, health systems research workers and others with skills relevant to the management of health care services. Mr TAGUIWALO (Philippines) noted that the work of the previous two years, as reflected in Chapters 1-4 of the Regional Director's report, had been based on a different premise than the work that was to be discussed under agenda item 9 (Management of WHO's resources). Thus, the initiatives approved by the World Health Assembly were not contained in the document. He expressed the opinion that many of the activities referred to in Chapters 1-4 were key activities in ensuring a close connection between WHO and policy-makers in Member States. Seminars provided opportunities for discussion between health leaders from different Member States. He expressed support for those activities, and urged that the close cooperation that had been established between WHO and Member States should continue. Chapter 4: Organization of health systems based ~ (pages 29-35) on primary health There were no comments. Chapter 5: Health manpower (pages 37-69) Dr DE SOUZA (Australia) said that his Government strongly supported the WHO fellowship programme, and had a lot to offer in the fields of health and education. He expressed concern over the level of reporting on the programme, and thought that more information on the trends within the programme would have provided a useful guide on the priorities of the participants and on potential future demands. He also supported promotion of in-country training. The Director General, in his Introduction to the proposed programme budget for 1988-1989, had stated that the management of the fellowship programme needed review. In view of the current financial situation, it was imperative that the programme should operate as cost-effectively as possible. He suggested that formal management guidelines could be developed and recommendations submitted to the next session of the Regional Committee. A model for long-term monitoring of fellowships had been prepared in another region, which could perhaps be adapted for use in the Western Pacific Region. Dr CHAN SIANG SUN (Malaysia) said that an important question concerned the productivity of health personnel and appropriate use of community resources. In Malaysia, two-thirds of the health budget was taken up by personnel costs. Various measures had been introduced to increase productivity. The area was an important one, and programme activities might have to be increased. Professor HOANG DINH CAU (Viet Nam) expressed the opinion that Chapter 5 was one of the most important in the report, since adequate health staff were a prerequisite for the developm~nt of primary health care services. Over the past twelve years, changes had been

96 REGIONAL COMMITTEE: THIRTY-EIGHTH SESSION made to the health curricula in Viet Nam, but one of the most difficult tasks was to change the attitudes of health staff at all levels. Tremendous efforts were needed on the part of health workers at community level, and appropriate training was necessary. Good results had been achieved, and he acknowledged the support of WHO and other countries in that regard. Fellows had been sent to other countries, but not in sufficient numbers to meet all the requirements. He asked for additional support for the development of further courses and seminars. Mr SONG YUNFU (China) said that a large team of health workers of different levels was important to the attainment of health for all. He expressed appreciation of the importance attached to that area by WHO, particularly in developing countries. China had many schools for health workers but also relied on fellowships, and those trained outside the country played an important role in the health system. Dr WEINSTEIN (United States of America) said that health manpower planning was a key aspect in the development of health systems. Regarding the fellowship programme, he supported the suggestion of the representative of Australia, that it was necessary to examine the relevance of the research to the goals of Member States, particularly in view of the diminishing resources available. Dr NAKATANI (Japan) expressed satisfaction with Chapter 5, but thought that the economic aspect was not sufficiently covered. He understood that the Secretariat had organized a meeting to study that issue and sought clarification on that point. He stressed the importance of the fellowship programme. Japan was host to many people through that programme, which represented a certain financial burden, but one that the Government was happy to accept. The Secretariat was going to send a mission to Japan, to examine the management of the fellowship programme, and the results would be presented to the next session of the Regional Committee. Mr TOEOLESULUSU SIUEVA (Samoa) reported that a training programme had recently been established in his country for community nursing officers, which expanded the role of nurses. He hoped the Secretariat would examine the problem of the shortage of medical schools in the South Pacific. There were medical schools in Fiji and Papua New Guinea, but nevertheless support was needed to examine what was available and to try to stop the "brain drain" away from the area. Mr TAGUIWALO (Philippines) expressed support for the suggestions regarding the need to monitor the use of resources for the fellowship programme. The development of an appropriate policy should take account, not only of the need for cost-effective use of fellowship resources, but also of the need to strengthen the capabilities of Member States to manage their resources for training. Whatever was applicable to use of WHO's resources was surely also applicable to use of Member States' resources. Dr MAOATE (Cook Islands) noted that the "brain drai:n" referred to previously also affected his country. In addition, Cook Islands

SUMMARY RECORD OF THE SECOND MEETING 97 depended, to a large extent, on training institutions in other countries, and therefore had little control over curricula, entrance requirements, etc. Training courses in other countries were sometimes not suitable, and he hoped that WHO would be able to help small states who could not afford to establish their own training institutes to have some input regarding curricula and entrance requirements. Dr REILLY (Papua New Guinea) said that in each country, as was now the case in Papua New Guinea, fellowships should be allocated according to a national health manpower development plan. The crisis in medical training in the South Pacific was largely a result of financial problems. For instance, it was likely that the department of dentistry in the medical school in Papua New Guinea would close in the near future because of the adverse financial situation related to a shortage of students. He reiterated the statement by the representative of Cook Islands that training needed to be appropriate to the national situation, and suggested that WHO should provide a greater input in the curricula of medical schools in the Region. The situation should be looked at as a matter of urgency, before irreversible changes became unavoidable. Dr BIUMAIWAI (Fiji) said that the training programme of the School of Medicine in Suva, although expanded to cover the South Pacific area, with a curriculum of seven years instead of five, was not yet sufficient to meet all needs for his own country, especially because of the effects of the "brain drain". Over twenty doctors had been lost to other countries, particularly Australia and New Zealand, in recent months and, besides appealing to them to limit such movement by refusing visas, he had personally visited China, Malaysia and Thailand in an endeavour to recruit replacements and fill a total of 108 vacancies. Other plans with WHO to stop the "brain drain" were under consideration, but thus far no solution had been found. The REGIONAL DIRECTOR, referring to Figures 5.2 to 5.7 (pages 49-54), said that results were provided of the Region's fellowship information system which not only reviewed fellowship activities but also monitored outcome. The WHO programme had been considered critically by the Health Assembly and the Executive Board in the past, and the programme had been adapted accordingly. The issue was a complicated one; the expression "imbalance" was used to describe the conditions in which some countries produced too many doctors or others too few, so that a study of regional availability would be required to determine health manpower development and planning needs. In addition there was the matter of changing needs and expectations in one and the same population, in particular for services based on the primary health care approach, where the emphasis was on competence but also on caring. A further point for consideration in the South Pacific, as just mentioned, was the need there for attention to local, for example political, conditions and requirements, which helped to explain the longer training period of seven years in medical education.

98 RIDIONAL COMMITTEE: THIRTY-EIGHTH SESSION He agreed that the undertook to support development through the the absence of specific review of the programme should continue and suggested measures for further study and Regional Director's Development Programme, in funding. He noted that some of the difficulties mentioned, which were not limited to the training of health professionals, were a hang-over from the colonial era, which, in many developing countries, affected studies in secondary education. It was, however, possible in some cases to correct less successful fellowship outcomes b,y subsequent action, for example, in graduate training. On the positive side it should be said that, while equivalence of qualifications on the one hand encouraged the "brain drain", it also increased the flexibility and the more general availability of staff of good quality. Meanwhile, unfortunately, many governments in the Region still had not a complete health manpower development or even health manpower lanning programme. Many countries used the WHO fellowship programme to develop their own staff, with more or less success. Dr HAN (Director, Programme Management), confirming that the figures reported in the biennial report of the Regional Director would be completed when the current evaluation (for which a consultant had been engaged in June 1987) ended in early 1988, added that the final results would be communicated to Member States that year - agenda permitting, to the thirty-ninth session of the Regional Committee if it so desired. The last WHO review had been completed in 1979 and the evaluation report had been used for a conference on regional cooperation in WHO fellowship programmes. The Regional Committee had then decided that the programme should be kept under review, with emphasis on study of the utilization of fellows. But thus far, there was no provision in the 1988-1989 programme budget for a meeting on such a review. It was hoped that regional trends would also emerge from the evaluation, but they would be largely determined by health manpower programmes in Member States. The representative of Japan had referred to the interregional workshop on economics of health manpower development in support of primary health care, which had been held in Manila in June 1987, among activities it had decided upon, there was to be a review of economic aspects related to production and use of health manpower. All countries had reported to the meeting and had undertaken to initiate action at national level; many of them would hold national workshops on the subject. A national workshop on utilization of health manpower had already been held in the Republic of Korea, and China was also examining economic aspects in connection with the managerial process for national health development. The Secretariat was regularly updating its register of training courses in the Region, which countries could use for the placement of fellows.

SUMMARY RECORD OF THE SECOND MEETING 99 Dr DE SOUZA (Australia) expressed gratitude for the information provided. Since it had been reported that an evaluation was under way, he suggested that it would suffice if the consultant were entrusted with study of the development of guidelines for the management of fellowship programmes, taking into consideration the model developed by the WHO Regional Office for South-East Asia. The CHAIRMAN said that, if the goal of health for all by the year 2000 was to be attained, it was imperative for the developing countries to have good health manpower policies suited to their particular requirements and concentrating on training appropriate categories of personnel. Chapter 6: Public information and education for health (pages 71-77) Dr DE SOUZA (Australia) thought that, in view of the emphasis in the chapter on the need to encourage individuals to care for their own health by adopting healthy life-styles, it might be appropriate to mention the Second International Conference on Health Promotion, to be held in Adelaide in April 1988 under the auspices of the Australian Government and WHO. The Conference would provide an opportunity for sharing the experiences gained in using the media in a great variety of ways to promote healthier living. Dr CHEN (Singapore) felt that, in view of the fundamental importance of health education for the promotion of health, WHO should encourage the inclusion of that subject in curricula for the the training of all categories of health workers. Chapter 7: Research promotion and development (pages 79-83) Dr CHAN SIANG SUN (Malaysia) thanked the Regional Director for his support of research promotion and development in the Region. In the current five-year plan in Malaysia, substantial amounts had been set aside for research in various sectors. The emphasis was on marketable research although basic research would not be ignored. At the end of the year a conference was to be held on health research administration. Chapter 8: General health protection and promotion (pages 85-93) Mr TOEOLESULUSU SIUEVA (Samoa) reported that his Government had set up a National Food and Nutrition Council to develop a coherent food policy. Samoa, in common with other Pacific countries, imported foodstuffs which were not always good for the health of its people. A rational food policy was essential for the promotion of health. Chapter 9: Protection and promotion of the health of specific population groups (pages 95-107) Dr SUNG WOO LEE (Republic of Korea) thanked WHO and UNFPA for their support for activities in his country. No reference was made to legal provisions concerning maternal and child health. In the Republic of Korea a law on maternal and child health had been

100 RIDIONAL COMMITTEE: THIRTY-EIGHTH SESSION promulgated in 1973 but most of its contents concerned family planning rather than maternal and child health services (relating to sterilization, induced abortion and other contraceptive methods). In 1986 it had been amended to emphasize the maternal and child health component, the registration system, clinical check-up of newborns and mothers, etc. Cha ter 10: Protection and romotion of mental health pages 109 115 There were no comments. Chapter 11: Promotion of environmental health (pages 117-127) Dr MAOATE (Cook Islands) expressed gratitude to WHO for making available to Cook Islands a consultant on sanitary engineering over the past few years, thus enabling his country to make great progress in the development of water supplies and, hence, in the improvement of health. It had requested further help from WHO in the field. Dr LIU BAILIN (China) stressed the importance of foodborne diseases and food safety control. The situation had improved remarkably in China since the promulgation of a provisional law on food hygiene. In particular, the importance of food safety was better understood b.y those responsible and the people in general. However, there was still quite a high incidence of food poisoning, and fairly serious contamination occasionally occurred during food production and transportation. Second, foodborne infections were on the increase. Third, there had been cases of fraudulent contamination of food. Fourth, hygiene and food product1on conditions were often still poor. Fifth, the national food safety control system had not yet been well organized, and left much to be desired. Sixth, most consumers were not fully aware of the full importance of food safety control. He suggested that activities in the Region, and that the Regional officials to a meeting on the subject. that field be strengthened in Director invite high-ranking Dr CHRISTMAS (New Zealand) fully supported the remarks of the representative of China. It was impossible to overrate the importance of food safety and quality control as part of a country's health protection programme. Every country passed through the stage at which the increased production of foodstuffs carried with it the danger of contamination and, occasionally, fraudulent adulteration. One of the main ways of dealing with that problem was not only to establish suitable standards but to introduce a technical support service through the training of health protection officers (formerly known as sanitary or health inspectors). The role of those technically trained officers in the whole field of environmental health, including occupational health, was very important, and New Zealand would strongly support any efforts by WHO to develop their training.

SUMMARY RECORD OF THE SECOND MEETING 101 The REGIONAL DIRECTOR agreed with the comments made by the representatives of China and New Zealand. Curiously, problems in ensuring food safety were on the rise in both developed and developing countries, one factor being the increased movement of food itself within countries and across national borders, as well as the greater mobility of those who ingested it. China, for example, had recently issued interesting and highly important legislation on food hygiene. WHO was alreaqy active in the field, through its food safety programme in PEPAS, where an expert was serving as adviser. He therefore welcomed the suggestion that such a meeting be held at a high level. Food safety was not only a health concern but an economic and even political issue inasmuch as it required the circulation of frank, factual information between countries. Dr DE SOUZA (Australia) was concerned lest the statement in paragraph 11.5 be misinterpreted to mean that the availability of water was all that counted. Quality was just as important as quantity, and cheap methods of disinfecting water remained a high priority. Chapter 12: Diagnostic, therapeutic and rehabilitative technology (pages 129-141) Dr CHAN SIANG SUN (Malaysia) said that, in an effort to ensure the high quality, safety and efficacy of drugs, Malaysia was registering all drugs and drug preparations. Under a new law no unregistered drugs could be imported, manufactured or marketed locally. During the first phase of implementation, now completed, they had received some 6000 applications, including a large number of brand-name preparations of identical drugs. About 4000 had been approved. Through this first exercise Malaysia was trying to eliminate from the market all drugs and preparations that were obviously dangerous or of doubtful quality or efficacy. There would be an ongoing detailed evaluation of each drug item in each of those respects. He extended Malaysia's appreciation to the drug control authorities of Australia, the United Kingdom and the United States of America for supplying valuable reference information. His country would welcome similar institutional relationships with other national drug control authorities. Dr REILLY (Papua New Guinea) expressed his country's thanks to Australia and WHO for organizing a recent conference on AIDS, to Japan for providing training in AIDS diagnosis, and to China and WHO for instituting acupuncture training at the undergraduate and postgraduate levels. Dr MAOATE (Cook Islands) noted that herbal medicine, although much practised by local people in his country, was not freely permitted by law. The Government was now prepared to accept herbal medicine but lacked the know-how - which he appealed to WHO to provide - to put such traditional practices into an acceptable form and to make them work effectively alongside those praqtising westerntype treatment and rehabilitation.

102 RIDIONAL COMMITTEE: THIRTY-EIGHTH SESSION Dr SUNG WOO LEE (Republic of Korea) reported that in his country, as from February 1987, traditional medicine had been included for the first time in the countrywide health insurance scheme. The intention was to expand traditional medicine to the greatest extent possible as part of primary health care. He thanked the Regional Director for his initiative in standardizing acupuncture nomenclature. There had been three meetings on the subject, the most recent in Seoul with WHO collaboration. Dr CHEN (Singapore) noted that the demand for rehabilitation following congenital malformations, accidents and infections had decreased. At the same time, however, as the population aged, there would be a growing need for the rehabilitation of people affected, for example, b,y stroke. She appealed to WHO to play a more active role in helping countries to train health workers for community-based rehabilitation. Mr SONG YUNFU (China) noted the mention in paragraph 12.35 of China's efforts to train health officers in modern rehabilitation. Community-based rehabilitation, which yielded significant results with only limited resources, was increasingly advocated by Member States. He appreciated WHO's efforts in the field, including the establishment of a network and the promotion of international exchange of information. A main feature of the Region was its unique and important systems of traditional medicine, to which WHO had rightly attached great significance. His delegation would offer detailed comments on the subject at a later time. The meeting rose at 4.30 p.m.