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STATE OF CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FIRESCOPE BOARD OF DIRECTORS Minutes of the Meeting July 9, 1997 Sacramento, California MEMBERS PRESENT William R. Bamattre, Chief- Los Angeles City Fire Department James Z. Brannon, Chief- Linda Fire Protection District Daniel J. Clark, Chief - Kern County Fire Department Ronny J. Coleman, State Fire Marshall- California State Fire Marshall's Office Gary Costmagna, Chief- Sacramento City Fire Department P. Michael Freeman, Chief- Los Angeles County Fire Department Stewart W. Gary, Chief- Livermore/Pleasanton Fire Department Neil Honeycutt, Chief- Office of Emergency Services John Jansen, Northern Director- California State Firefighter's Association Pat Kidder, Fire Management Officer - Bureau of Land Management John Kraushaar, Fire Specialist - National Park Service Roger K. Purdie, Chief - Vista Fire Department Russell Richards, Chief - Stanislaus Consolidated Fire Protection District Bob Roper, Chief- Ventura County Fire Protection District Keith Simmons, Chief - Santa Barbara County Fire Department Douglas Sporleder, Chief- Santa Clara County Fire Protection District MEMBERS ABSENT Jose Cruz, Director- Aviation and Fire Management, United States Forest Service Brian Hatch, Director- California Professional Fire Fighters Tom Nichols, Protection Specialist- National Park Service Richard A. Wilson, Director- California Department of Forestry OTHERS PRESENT Paul Beckstrom, Deputy Chief - Office of Emergency Services Tom Bender, Chief - Waterloo-Morada Rural Fire Protection District Will Brock, Assistant Chief - Office of Emergency Service Pat Cooney, Assistant Chief- Office of Emergency Service Mike Dougherty, Assistant Director, Southern Operations - United States Forest Service Cary Eckard, Deputy Chief - Kern County Fire Department

.. Dan Francis, Chief - California Department of Forestry Mark Ghilarducci, Deputy Chief- Office of Emergency Services Gary Gilbert, Region Chief- California Department of Forestry Mike Harris, Region VI Coordinator- California Department of Forestry Richard Helton, Office Technician- Office of Emergency Services Darrell Higuchi, Deputy Chief- Los Angeles County Fire Department Larry J. Holms, Chief- Orange County Fire Authority (Retired) Jim Jeffrey, Assistant Chief - Office of Emergency Services John Linder, Assistant Chief- Office of Emergency Services Robert Martinez, Operations Chief- California Department of Forestry Glen Newman, Region Chief - California Department of Forestry Jim Owen, Deputy Director- California Department of Forestry Gary Pavusko, Deputy Chief- Office of Emergency Services Joe Perry, Chief- Napa Fire Department Ray Quintinaur, Deputy Director, United States Forest Service Jim Radley, Assistant Chief- Orange County Fire Authority Steve Vittum, Division Chief- Santa Barbara County Fire Department Doug Wagoner - Bureau of Land Management Bruce Ward, Deputy Director, Office of Emergency Services Jack Weist, Cascade Area Chief- California Department of Forestry Hank Weston, Chief - Grass Valley Fire Department Dick Williams, Professor - Santa Ana College Chris Wurzel!, Assistant Chief- California Department of Forestry OPENING REMARKS/INTRODUCTIONS The meeting was called to order at 9:45a.m. by Chairman Gary Costamagna. Self-introductions were made. APPROVAL OF APRIL 9,1997 MINUTES Chief Doug Sporleder moved that the minutes of the April 9, 199 7, meeting be approved as written. Chief Bamattre seconded, and the motion was passed by unanimous vote. RECOGNITION OF CHIEF LARRY J. HOLMS Deputy Director Bruce Ward presented Chief Larry Holms with a Certificate of Commendation from OES on behalf of Governor Pete Wilson. Chief Holms has served on the FIRESCOPE Board for over 17 years, the last two years as vice-chair. Larry responded with a short speech thanking FIRESCOPE for the opportunity to participate. He emphasized the cooperative nature of the Board and encouraged the members to maintain this leadership role in the fire service in California.

Introduction of New Board Member. Chief Bob Roper. Ventura County Chief Neil Honeycutt introduced Chief Bob Roper as the newest board member, and Ventura County's new Fire Chief. Certificate of Appreciation for Alice Forbes Neil Honeycutt announced that Alice Forbes was unable to attend. The Certificate will be presented at some time in the future. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: Deputy Director Bruce Ward represented Director Andrews. FIRE ENGINE PROGRAM WORKING GROUP PRELIMINARY REPORT Chief P. Michael Freeman reported that the Fire Engine Working Group had met in Burbank to study this program. The preliminary information is that the program is viable, 109 engines is appropriate, and that the distribution of the engines is still to be addressed. The group will have at least one more meeting. The final report is due in October. Chief Freeman also reported that no correspondence had been received from Senator Kopp's Committee. LETTER FROM DIRECTOR'S ANDREWS AND WILSON: MUTUAL AID Chief Gary Costamagna reported that Chief Freeman and He met with the Directors Andrews and Wilson and that a joint letter on the mutual aid issue was received from the Directors. He further stated that this letter needed to be distributed to the California Fire Service. A bulletin is being distributed with the letter to remind all fire chiefs that it is necessary to fully understand the mutual aid system.. Chief Costamagna opened the floor for discussion on the bulletin to be included with the Directors Joint Letter. The discussion that followed included a number of issues: clarification of Forest Service fire policy; structure and wildland fire differences; suggestion's to create a group to better define how to track a Mutual Aid request or a Five Party Agreement Request; CDF indicated they would be willing to help with a working group; the training aspect of Mutual Aid and cost apportionment; the need to remind all Fire Chiefs that they need to be familiar with the Red Book, the Master Mutual Aid Agreement, and the Emergency Services Act of the State of California; that they should plan for mutual aid prior to an incident; and that local fire chiefs need to be more aware of the cost apportionment issues.

Other Issues regarding the letter and mutual aid were addressed. (available on tape) q-r Jim Owen made a motion tha the OPS Team be tasked to study the order/request process, and report back to the Board. Seconded by 6 e ~ Following a discussion the Board decided to add a few paragraphs to the Bulletin, and that the revised copy would be reviewed after the lunch break. STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S REPORT Daniel Francis presented an ICS Certification, Qualification and Training Report (briefing paper attached). The Board discussed these issues in detail. The general consensus was the Board Members need to provide the direction for these various programs. Chief Francis was directed to report back to the Board in October with new developments, and additional recommendations on how these programs may be implemented. (tape failure) Items discussed included: ICS Qualification & Certification System for Wildland Firefighting ICS All-Risk Qualifications and Certifications ICS Position Certification & Qualifications Tracking System "Red Card". Training Delivery System. Chief Freeman made a motion to have FIRESCOPE representation at a training summit meeting, that includes the California Fire Chiefs and other Interested parties, to further develop the direction of a training delivery system, Seconded by Chief Simmons, passed by unanimous vote.

ICS Position Training Development. Chief Stewart made a motion to have the Office of Emergency Services and the State Fire Marshal, along with the FIRESCOPE Task Force develop a Budget Change Proposal to rewrite the current NWCG curriculum ICS position training. Seconded by Chief Simmons, passed by unanimous vote. Chief Simmons made a motion to redirect the Forest Service funds from training curriculum development with a specific trainer to curriculum development in general, seconded by Roger Purdie(?) passed by unanimous vote. OPERATIONS TEA MIT ASK FORCE REPORT Chief Dougherty submitted the FIRESCOPE work plan and for the Task Force which included notes for removing certain ICS modules to keep them from being duplicated. A draft of the strategic plan was submitted to the board for their review. OLD BUSINESS Jim Owen(?) recommended that Chief Keith Simmons replace Chief Holm's vacant position on the SEMS Advisory Group. Seconded by Steward Gary, Passed by unanimous vote. Return to: LETTER FROM DIRECTOR'S ANDREWS AND WILSON: MUTUAL AID After reviewing the FIRESCOPE Bulletin (to be a cover for the joint letter from the Directors), some additional comments were added, and the Bulletin was finalized. NEW BUSINESS Chief Bamattre reported on the Safe House Program in the Los Angeles City Fire Department. They are working to expand it and how it could have a statewide application. State Fire Marshal Coleman reported on California's Arson Information Reporting System and the ongoing testing of this system. This system is a database of all fires in

the State of California and how departments will be able to access the information through the Internet, including training and how to sign-up for access. REGIONAL COORDINATOR'S REPORTS: Region 1: Region II: Region Ill: No Report. No Report. Chief Jack Weist reported on a silo incident in the Tehama-Glen Ranger Unit that involved an oxygen limiting fire and the backdraft that was created when the silo was opened. The backdraft that resulted blew the top of the concrete silo off and threw debris for several hundred feet, cracking the silo in the process. He further reported that of the 23 silo's in the complex, 4 had fires in them. Chief Weist also reported on the Cresta Dam Failure on the Feather River. The initial failure released 1800 acre feet of water immediately, and there were no fatalities, though there were rescue activities handled through mutual aid. Region IV: Region V: Region VI: Chief Weston reported that there has been a lot of Operational Area, Strike Team, and ICS training taking place. He also complimented Sacramento County on their response to a request for an Immediate Need Strike Team, and the way they performed their job. Chief Gilbert that Chief Gregory was appointed Mariposa County Fire and Rescue Operational Area Coordinator. The region is continuing training for all dispatchers in their region. Chief Mike Harris reported that Jim Wright has been appointed the CDF Chief for Riverside County and may be appointed the Operational Area Coordinator. He further reported on the several Mutual Aid responses handled in Region VI, Including a request for aid from the Mexican Consulate to assist them with a 1200 to 1600 acre fire threatening the City of Tecate. CDF mobilized 10 engines companies to the port of entry to Tecate, however, due to the introduction of military forces, the CDF engines were no longer required. Some general discussion followed regarding border crossing protocol and the current state of discussions regarding border crossing for Mutual Aid resources.

NEXT MEETING OF THE FIRESCOPE BOARD OF DIRECTORS The next meeting is schedule for October 8, 1997, at the Department of Health Services in Sacramento. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 3:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, NEIL R. HONEYCUTI, Chief Governor's Office of Emergency Services Fire and Rescue Branch P:\HOMEICOMMON\FIRE&RES\OA TA IWPTEXT\ADVISORY\97 JUL Y\MIN UTES.797