Cal State East Bay s Impaction Public Hearings Questions and Responses March 4, 2017 Hayward High School (28 attendees): Questions and Answers: Question: Through the Hub (http://www.husd.us/hub), there used to be a HUSD-PK program in which parents attended a year-long program about education and parent involvement. It would give a certificate of admission to parents. What happened to the program? President Morishita s answer: This program still exists and is a state-wide program in which each CSU campus provides $25K. For Cal State East Bay, we have this program at a couple of schools. It is a training program for parents about education run by a non-profit in the Los Angeles area. Cal State East Bay gives $25K to program. It is still running in Alameda and Contra Costa Counties, but limited because of the funding. We are supporting this program because we think it is valuable. Question: Other Bay Area cities and counties have CSU campuses. Why is Cal State East Bay expanding to these cities and counties? Provost Inch s answer: We are already serving these students, so it makes sense to expand our service area to include these cities and counties so we can provide them with four-year degree options. Question: How will supplemental criteria be determined? Provost Inch s answer: For outside our local service area, the GPA for incoming transfers may increase to 2.2 to 2.3, for example. The level depends on projected capacity and funding. Question: We enjoy being the diverse campus, what happens if our diversity changes with impaction? Provost Inch s answer: We will review the data as we go forward with impaction. Our goal is to continue to serve a diverse community. President Morishita s answer: We will adjust. However, based on Proposition 209, we can t do anything. We do not believe that by raising the GPA criteria for students outside our service area will undermine our diversity. We will keep eye on it. We want to be sure our enrollment reflects our region. Cal State East Bay wants to serve our region and draw from larger pool of student applicants. Provost Inch s additional comment: Cal State East Bay will protect our diversity that is one of our key goals. Question: Will impaction affect our international students? 1
Provost Inch s answer: Impaction will not affect international student population. Only California residents. Question: Are other CSUs impacted? President Morishita s answer: Five campuses are not fully impacted. Question: What is the previous admission criteria for ADTs? Provost Inch s answer: For the ADT admission criteria, we are required to admit these students from our local service area as long as the applicants meet the criteria for one of our ADT major programs under SB 1440. We also receive ADT re-directs from impacted campuses. Question: Why not prioritize and take ADTs just in our local service area? Provost Inch s answer: No, we will take them all. We can streamline their degree so they can obtain one in two years once they come to our campus. Question: How will impaction affect Cal State East Bay s relationship with Hayward Promise Neighborhood? Provost Inch s answer: Our relationship should be strengthened because we are strengthening what we are doing to support Hayward Promise Neighborhood s students. Question: How will impaction affect financial aid? Especially burden on transfers and running out of funds to pay for college? How we addressing students financial aid package? Vice President Wong s answer: Cal State East Bay is working on roadmaps to ensure students are taking the right courses and we are focused on graduating student on time so they do not run out of financial aid funds. We plan to use scholarships to help our students. For example, our Rising in the East fundraising campaign has earmarked funds for student scholarships. Question: How will impaction deepen Cal State East Bay s relationship with local community colleges? Provost Inch s answer: That is one of the reasons that we are working with community college partners on ADT and 2+2 programs. This year, President Morishita and I met with community college presidents to streamline the process for transferring to Cal State East Bay. Also, there is a new state law, the California Promise, in which once a transfer student starts at a CSU, we will help them graduate in two years. For first-time freshmen, they will graduate in 4 years in this program. Our goal is when they enroll at Cal State East Bay, we want to help them graduate in a timely fashion. Sometimes students choose differently things and that might delay their graduation. President Morishita s answer: SB 1440 encourages students to graduate in a timely fashion. Community colleges place them on a graduation pathway. We might get to a point in time 2
(which will be a great thing) in which we might have to give priority to our six counties. At that point, we might have to change our impaction plan. Under SB 1440, students complete 60 semester units from community college and then 60 units at Cal State East Bay they will not run out of financial aid and hopefully not have to borrow money. Vice President Wong s answer: We are focusing on support services for transfer students. Smooth Transitions in one of our programs to support students. We have a transfer student mentor program that pairs a Cal State East Bay student with transfer students from their community college. This year, we launched Tau Sigma honor society for transfer students. Question: With respect to Hayward Unified School District, how is impaction message getting out so it will not affect our community? Have Cal State East Bay enrollments fallen off? Provost Inch s answer: No, our enrollments have grown. We are responsible to areas that send us students. Messaging is very important. The CSU wishes that it could take all students, but that s not possible due to funding. We want to take care of our students in our local service area which includes Hayward. That is our message. We want to provide courses and services so students in our local area can graduate in a timely fashion. Vice President Wong s answer: Our outreach counselors work with school districts so they understand the messages. One of our staff members reached out and the counselors get it, but we need to work with students and parents. We recognize that we need to work hard to get the message out that students in our local service area will not be affected. Question: How can Hayward Promise Neighborhood help? President Morishita s answer: Please tell parents and students that Cal State East Bay wants to expand access and opportunities for our local area. We are proud that we serve our region and proud of 61% of our students are first-generation college students. Cal State East Bay serves our community and provides our local workforce. We outreach to all our local schools. We provide college pathways for our students. Question: What about accepting ADTs transfer students in the CSU system? Provost Inch s answer: Any CSU can accept ADT students as long as the CSU campus has the programs and students meet the ADT criteria for admission. President Morishita s answer: Cal State East Bay has the most ADT programs. Thus, we can serve more students who choose to attend Cal State East Bay through this program. Provost Inch s additional comment: Cal State East Bay has a strong partnership with our community colleges. It has strengthened over the years. Our connections with those campuses help make transferring from the two-year colleges to Cal State East Bay as seamless as possible. For example, we are working hard with our Concord campus and the community colleges in this region so we can design programs to serve these communities. These partnerships are very important to us. 3
President Morishita s additional comment: I am going to brag about one social mobility study done at Stanford University. For 10% of students who started in lowest 20% quintile, 44% of that group reach the highest quintile after they graduated and all students in the lowest quintile moved up. Provost Inch s additional comment: 70-80% of our students return to these regional communities and make a difference there. Their lives improve and will continue to improve, especially if we continue our strong partnerships, such as the Hayward Promise Neighborhood. Question: Will Cal State East Bay use this statistic in their capital campaign? President Morishita s and Provost Inch s responses: We will. This type of statistic is good to blast out and be proud of. It is a testament of the type of students we receive and who we graduate. END OF HEARING March 7, 2017 Diablo Valley College (11 attendees): Question and Answers: Question: Do you know what community colleges have seen increase in ADT degrees? Provost Inch s answer: I do not have breakdown exactly, but numbers are increasing for ADTs. President Morishita s answer: Diablo Valley College is number 2, Chabot is number 1 and Ohlone is number 3. We draw from the other community colleges in our region. Within our region, our impaction will not adversely affect anyone. Question: How is Cal State East Bay s local area advertised? Provost Inch s answer: Alameda and Contra Costa counties are published publicly on the CSU Chancellor s Office website. And the impaction website details the proposal. Question: What about the nursing program? Provost Inch s answer: Nursing will not be affected because already impacted. We are doing our best to accommodate the nursing demand. President Morishita s answer: We could expand, but we are limited by clinical placements. Question: Will impaction affect Diablo Valley College students? Provost Inch s answer: No, it will not affect Diablo Valley College students. 4
Question: How is a student from a local service area defined? What happens to students who go to multiple community colleges, including Diablo Valley College and obtain an ADT degree? President Morishita s answer: Residency by the most recent transcript. Cal State East Bay will accept the student s ADT degree. Question: What kind of success is Cal State East Bay having with ADT students? Provost Inch s answer: That is an important question. Cal State East Bay is starting to track them. Dean Scharberg s follow up comment: We will be tracking them and sharing information, as appropriate, with other community colleges. An academic advisor was just hired and she will be tracking them. DVC follow up comment: We would like to know how our students are doing and progressing toward to their four-year degrees. We should tell our ADT success stories. These stories will be a tremendous incentive for students to embrace the ADT. Provost Inch s comment: Our goal is for students to have a very clear road map. Our transfer graduation rates are pretty good. And, part of our graduation initiative includes increasing our two-year transfer graduation rate. Also, the new California Promise will also help with twoyear transfer graduate rates. Vice President Wong s comment: Right now, transfer orientation is not mandatory, but we hope to have an opt-out for transfer in the future, as we move toward mandatory orientation. We also hope to have transfer convocation. Last fall, we started Tau Sigma Honor Society (transfer students who finish their first term at Cal State East Bay with a GPA of 3.5 or higher) and we now have over 1500 students. We have staff members working on transfer articulation and transitions. We have the GANAS program (Latino transfer students) and SANKOFA program (African American transfer students) to assist students in transitioning to Cal State East Bay. Many students in our student government are transfer students from community colleges. We are trying to do as much as possible to help transfers transition to Cal State East Bay. Note: Vice President Wong connected Diablo Valley College s transfer coordinator with Cal State East Bay s executive director of transfer student programs. Question: What s the expectation in terms of student enrollments? Provost Inch s answer: We want to hit our target, not one student more or one student less. We are budgeted for in state for about 12,114 resident FTES. Some campuses will go above their target. Our campus remains small and intimate so want to come close to that number. We can adequately accommodate 16,000 students. Question: By expanding your service area, what are possibilities of rejecting students? 5
President Morishita s answer: Cal State East Bay has increased about 3000 students in the last five years, so we are about at capacity now. We want to keep enrollment at our budgeted amount. We feel that we can serve six counties without a problem. Then, we can limit enrollment outside of our service area, if necessary. Provost Inch s comment: This strategy helps us regulate at a broad level and is part of our overall enrollment plan. Question: The ADT won t give priority over others? In the foreseeable future, will we end up moving towards prioritizing students? Provost Inch s answer: Hopefully we won t have to go toward prioritized admission. Students outside the area with ADTs may need to have a higher standard to get in, but not right now that is not part of this proposal. Vice President Wong s comment: We will continue to support our region with respect to our students who we serve (first-generation). It is not our purpose to limit enrollment and we want to maintain our diversity. We need your help in explaining impaction because the last thing we want is to not have students apply. We are applying impaction as minimally as possible. Question: What is your communication strategy? How will you roll this out? Vice President s Wong s answer: Cal State East Bay has a communication committee to develop a communications plan on campus and to our campus communities. If we are approved, we will do a marketing plan for our community, including community college counselors. Question: So long as you (a student) meet eligibility criteria your application will be reviewed? Provost Inch s answer: Yes, your students won t notice the difference. They will get in first. Our students in our region will be reviewed first. President Morishita s question to the group: What would be best way to communicate to high schools and community colleges? What is the best way to get the word out via email blast or material that you and your colleagues would pick up? Answer from Diablo Valley College Community: Visit each college in our service areas. It is a matter of coordination of the folks that are teaching students on regular basis; counselors, different organizations and programs. Puente and MESA programs should be included in the visits. Diablo Valley College can coordinate such a visit. Students should be invited as well. We just need to be well versed as your Cal State East Bay staff. We have to do our part to get in the information out. Cal State East Bay needs to come up with good collateral material with the major bullet points of what you re trying to convey, along with a visit. Provost Inch s comment: People do not pay attention to service area, so people may react negatively to the word impaction. President Morishita has been talking to community 6
colleges for two years. We have worked on messaging. We realize that our Cal State East Bay recruitment staff will need to have the same message. President Morishita s comment: Service area is old term to make sure we serve these areas. As we came up with our impaction plan, we noted that we have been admitting students mostly from these six counties. All others outside these six counties will be second tier. Diablo Valley College comments: Suggest that President Morishita make a presentation to Contra Costa County Mayors Conference Perhaps make a presentation Alameda County Mayors conference. One of the biggest challenges is to work with our K-12 partners. Maybe go to counties board of education meetings to build awareness of this topic. President Morishita s note: He commented that he had attended the mayor s conference and announced Cal State East Bay s impaction plans. Diablo Valley College comments: Cal State East Bay came to us when the College of Business was impacted. It might be helpful to come and talk again to DVC counseling staff when impaction is approved. Provost Inch s comment: In some cases, others thought Cal State East Bay was impacted already. However, other CSUs are impacted more rigidly. Thus, communication is key to make sure we serve our service area, noting that other CSUs have more rigid program impaction. Diablo Valley College comment: We need reach out to our sister colleges. Question from Cal State East Bay: What is the best way to get information out? Diablo Valley College answer: Meeting with the counseling group at DVC will help disseminate the information easily. We can post marketing information, too, if Cal State East Bay is approved for impaction. President Morishita s comment: It is about Cal State East Bay utilizing our resources in the best ways possible. As long as students meet the minimum admission criteria and are in our service area, Cal State East Bay will accept them. Question: How do Sonoma State, San Jose State and San Francisco State feel about this? President Morishita s answer: They re already impacted. San Jose State has closed the doors to a number of their local feeder schools to their students because of program impaction. They are prioritizing admissions right now. A number of community colleges on the Peninsula were upset with San Jose State. So there are numerous students coming to Cal State East Bay from those community colleges. With San Francisco State as an impacted campus, it is difficult for students to get in. Question: Are we able to market the transfer as a guarantee or as a priority? 7
President Morishita s answer: Yes, it s still a guarantee. Yes, that s what the message should say verses a priority. We should use guarantee because that is what we re doing, as long as students in our local service area meet the minimum admission requirements and apply on time. Diablo Valley College comment: Sam Richards, who writes for the East Bay Times may be interested in writing about this. The timing of that story would be once you get official approval. Once we re able to say things definitively. The guarantee really results in a positive for students, if students meet the admission requirements. Question: If student comes in with ADT, does that mean they won t have to take more than 60 units? Provost Inch s answer: As long as they stay with the ADT major, they will not have to take more than 60 semester units. Right now we don t give priority registration to ADT, but beginning fall 2018, all ADTs will be on a pathway to get priority registration through the California Promise program. Provost Inch s comment: We want our students to be successful, especially with respect to social mobility. Our students are graduating with more opportunities. We want to help them complete their degrees. END OF HEARING March 8, 2017 Cal State East Bay (15 attendees): Questions and Answers: Question: Will impaction affect graduate school admission? Provost Inch s Answer: No. We are looking at how we want to build our grad program in the long run. Impaction is for undergraduate students. Question: It won t affect costs? But didn t tuition just rise? Vice President Wong s answer: No. The less time that you are in college, the less it will cost you. Provost Inch s comment: Impaction has nothing to do with tuition costs. Just regulating the number of students coming into Cal State East Bay outside of our service area. Question. Does it affect students coming in from abroad? Provost Inch s answer: No. Impaction will only affect California residents from outside our defined service area. President Morishita s comment: Impaction will not affect international students. 8
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